Angel Wars and the Original Sin (Part 1)

 The Real Cosmic Truth

To the Galactic Federation of Light (GFOL) and Pleiadian “light workers”; please take a moment to learn about who we really are in the Universe of cosmic “beings”.    Have you noticed that the Pleiadians and Andromedans have not offered you any escape from the calamity’s coming upon the earth?

There is a rescue mission coming.  But it’s not coming from the Galactic Federation.  Write me at jbaptist777@gmail.com or jbaptist@tribulation-now.org with questions.  Also be sure to read the articles entitled Son, Souls, Elohim and Angels, The Heavenly Office of God, and Disclosure Crescendo for a lot more information.

 

 Angel Wars and The Original Sin

The Divine Council of “gods” with our Father

The Wars in the Heavens
Why Are We Here?

Well Glory to Jesus last night’s radio show on “The Edge AM” was a huge success.  Our Heavenly Father blessed us with Zen Garcia who joined us, and the information flowed in a wonderful way.  If you would like to listen (and download) the radio show you can click on this link HERE:

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We covered an amazing amount of territory and topics during the show and the information moved very fast. Many listeners like to “re-listen” to the show and take notes in order to glean as much information as possible.

The feedback was so outstanding there may even present itself an opportunity for another program to continue the discussion.  That is providing “all heck” doesn’t break loose in the next couple weeks.

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Ongoing Questions and Answers

As J. Vernon McGee said in his book “Through the Bible” …

“I believe that Genesis is telling us that this earth became without form and void, that it was just as uninhabitable as the moon when the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. We can only suggest that there was some pre-Adamic creature that was on this earth. And it seems that all of this is connected with the Fall of Lucifer…”

“I believe that the entire universe came under this great catastrophe. What was the catastrophe? We can only suggest that there was some pre-Adamic creature that was on this earth. And it seems that all of this is connected with the Fall of Lucifer, son of the morning, who became Satan, the devil, as we know him today. I think all of this is involved here [in Gen. 1:2], but God has not given us the details.

The fact of the matter is that He has given us very, very few details in the first chapter of Genesis” (Vol. I, p. 13).

 

Our Bible Has Been Pillaged

The unfortunate truth of the matter is our Bible has been pillaged by the forces of darnkess.  Just as every reasonable sized church today has a Brotherhood of Satan member on the Board of Directors, you can bet the “get thee behind me Satan” problem affected the canon process.  I personally believe it was far more sinister than that, particularly because the Roman Catholic Inquisition sought to destroy and slaughter any group of apostolic “good Christians” that Baptised people in the Holy Spirit by the “laying on of hands” and label them as “gnostics”.

Nevermind “The Knights Templar” and the secret “locked” Vatican Library.

And what a horrible success the Inquisition was.  Indeed the Baptism of the Holy Spirit was all but eliminated through the dark ages.  The Reformation of the Church, led by Martin Luther, resulted in unfortunate offshoots that still had forgotten the “Forgotten God” (The Holy Spirit).  I recommend you consider reading Francis Chans books “Crazy Love” and “The Forgotten God“.

Additional Holy Spirit Outpourings Continued

However God continued to outpour the Baptism of the Holy Spirit sporadically over the years.  It wasn’t until the Azuza Street Revival, that a HUGE outpouring of the Holy Spirit actually made the major newpapers across the United States.  People like Smith Wigglesworth, traveled in horse and buggy across the country JUST to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.  John G. Lake started the most amazing divine healing ministry to ever exist, as a result of this amazing outpouring.  And the list goes on and on.

Mysteries Continue to Be Revealed

Nevertheless, even with the pillaging of our Holy Scripture, and the removal of divinely inpsired text now sadly labeled as “apocrypha” and “pseudoepigrapha”, we continue to uncover the mysteries of the Bible little by little.  As the scripture says, even in our own 66 book canon of today, “all things will be revealed”.  Amen to that.

Mark 4:21-23
21 Also He said to them, “Is a lamp brought to be put under a basket or under a bed? Is it not to be set on a lampstand?  22 For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light.  23 If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear.”
NKJV

 

As Close to the Truth as Possible

Now before I proceed, I will first make it clear that I am not claiming 100% accuracy.  Even the Old Testament prophets of Deuteronomy occassionally weaved in “human assumptions” and God warned us “not to be afraid of them”.  (Deut. 18:22)

Nor is this intended to be an exhaustive explanation with tons of citations and supporting scripture from various texts.  Zen Garcia is currently completing his 6th Book entitled “Sons of God – Who We Are, Why We Are Here“.  You can get in touch with him by going to his web site www.fallenangels.tv.

However after each radio show, I continue to get questions sent from various folks with questions about matters of the “Heavenly Office of God” and how this stuff all “went down”.  I covered much of these concepts in prior articles entitled, “Sons, Souls, Elohim and Angels“, “Intergalactic God“, and “The Heavenly Office of God“.

Evidently this topic is SO POPULAR (as well it should be because we are Royalty in the Universe of beings), that the questions continue to flow in.  So here below is a “high level summary” of what LIKELY happened millions of years ago that led humanity to the current “redemption process” we are undergoing at this time.

In order for us to be “restored” to our “first estate”, we must strive to become righteous and holy.  Otherwise our Heavenly Father cannot restore us back to our previous level of power in the Universe.  We have to “prove ourselves” worthy.  It’s not JUST about being “saved” … its about INHERITING the Kingdom of Heaven and getting a position of authority back.

This is why we are PREDESTINED “ELECT” of God.  This is why God “knew us in the womb”.

Long Ago and Far Away

Millions of years ago the Universe was normal.  Trillions of life forms existed.  Civilizations of beings (peoples and creatures) existed all over the galaxy.  God’s creations of amazing beauty abounded everywhere.

God’s angels (Sons of God Messengers) of many different varieties, would roam in fleets throughout the galaxies “seeding” the Universe (planting the heavens Isaiah 51:16).  The “Sons of God” (all different types of creations, including Cherubim leaders, Seraphim organizers, and Ophanim angels as well as “creator god angelics” (which are a type of angel that “creates things” in the Universe for God and by God with the power of the Holy Spirit given to them “by God“) were “seeding” planets across all the star systems.  They would create plants, fishes of the sea, and various life forms.

Col 1:16-17
All things were created through Him and for Him.
NKJV

These “Sons of God” (angelics or beings created DIRECTLY by God (YHWH or Ya va El, the God of gods / El Elyon or “The Most High God“) are, to this day, “Royalty” in the Universe.  They “help” civilizations on other planets.  They “seed life”.  This planet is not not the only “earth like” planet out there.  The angels of God (angelics) continue to go to other planets and do what God instructs them to do and help those civilizations “get along”.

Oh you question this do you?  Well lets take a quick look at Matthew 24:30

Matt 24:31
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
NKJV

Interesting choice of words here.  The scripture could have easily said “one end of earth to the other” but it didn’t.  God is incapable of lying.  You see “God’s elect” are scattered all over the heavens.  We are not the only “pebbles on the beach”.

Cosmic Wars

God’s angels also get involved in cosmic wars when they break out.  They put a stop to the wars (intercede).  They keep order in the cosmos.  This is why the scripture says …

2 Thess 2:7-8
… only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.
NKJV

God’s angelic beings, guided and empowered by the Holy Spirit (as WE should be in our daily walk), are fighting angel wars RIGHT NOW.   The ridiculous Pleiadians are NOT the ones disabling war-heads on ICBM and shutting down nuclear missile silos in my opinion.  They have no reason to do so since they are obviously “in bed” with the Military Extraterrestrial Industrial Complex.  (see “The Dulce Book” here).

Lucifer and the Creator “gods”

Lucifer was one of the head guys.  A covering Cherub.  He was the “top dog” along side Jesus Christ in the heavens.  But of course only a minor god in comparison to our King of Kings.  Indeed Lucifer himself was a type of “Son of God”.

Millions of years ago, when the earth (planet earth) was being “seeded” (planted) wth life forms, the “creator gods” working on behalf of the Heavenly Office of God, were “seeding” the earth (Genesis One).  They helped our Heavenly Father, “create” the fishes of the sea, the plant life, and all the beauty here on earth.  They also created “man and woman” like creatures on earth.  The said “Let US create them in OUR image”.  And indeed they did.  These man and woman creatures were pre-adamic man.  But they did not have the “Living Soul” (spirit) of God directly breathed into them, like Adam did in Genesis 2:7.

The “multi-age” saga of Genesis One that covered thousands (perhaps Millions) of years of time, should have ended with Genesis 2:4 where it says:

Gen 2:4
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
KJV

Genesis One is HIGHLY METAPHORICAL and includes references to “prior earth ages”.

This is why Genesis One never mentions “Living Soul” (if you have a proper translation that hasn’t been monkeyed with).  This term is not used until Genesis 2:7 when “Adam” was created by “Lord God YHWH Elohim” our Heavenly Father “directly“.  Remember any being that is created DIRECTLY by GOD for the Heavenly Office of God, is a Son of God and is ROYALTY in the Universe (by definition).

This makes them (us) part of the Royal Family of beings in the Universe.

Lucifer Plays God

Somewhere along this “multi-age” timeline of creation events, Lucifer stepped out of line and started to have the “creator gods” make creations in which God did not approve.  Dinosaurs and other abominations resulted.  The unwitting “creator gods” were working for Lucifer at the time, who had taken temporary control of the “Morning Star” office of God.  When the  “back office” of God, (possibly located in the Star System of Arcturus (?)) got wind of what was happening on earth (e.g. Lucifer playing God), they reported this to our Father.

Job 38:32
Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
KJV

Michael was sent out with legions of “warrior angels” to put a stop to Lucifer and his hundreds of thousands of “creator god” angelics.  Lucifer, who was admired by his team of “creator gods” angelics, rallied his team and fought back.  There were wars in the heavens (Rev 12:7).  These are known as “angel wars” (or UFO wars) that happened between the “Sons of God” (angels).

Lucifer and his creator god angelics, lost the war.  We were on the losing side of that battle.

God Imposed Judgement

There was a judgement upon the “angels”.  This was possibly more than 1/3 of the angels in heaven.  There was a Supreme Court held in the Office of the Almighty and the Seven Spirits Supreme Court levied a “judgement”.  The judgement can be found in Psalms 82.

Ps 82:1-7
God stands in the congregation of the mighty;
He judges among the gods.
2 How long will you judge unjustly,
And show partiality to the wicked?
Selah
3 Defend the poor and fatherless;
Do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy;
Free them from the hand of the wicked.

5 They do not know, nor do they understand;
They walk about in darkness; (this is referring to the hapless beings and creations that Lucifer illegally created)
All the foundations of the earth are unstable.

6 I said, “You are gods,
And all of you are children (sons) of the Most High.
7 But you shall die like men,
And fall like one of the princes. (Lucifer)”
NKJV

Remember Jesus reminded us who WE ARE in the Universe of beings.

John 10:34-35
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods“‘?
NKJV

 

The Heavenly Supreme Court Takes Action

After the Supreme Court Judgement was handed down, some of the angelics and Lucifer “refused” the judgment and they were subsequently divorced from the Heavenly Office of God (cut off from the Holy Spirit and eternal life).

The “good angelics” (you and me) who accepted the judgement of “Ye shall die like men” (in human form) agreed to take on “human bodies” and live the life of a mere mortal human.  This began the judgement (redemption process) of the good angels that accepted the Judgement.

Our Heavenly Father “Injects” Adam into the Garden

At that point God created Adam in the East Garden, (on an earth already teaming with life and pre-admic creatures and beings) and breathed the Living Soul of God (spirit) into Him (Gen 2:7).  Each of Adam’s progeny at conception (with the exception of Cain who was born of the evil one ref. 1 John 3:12), has the “living Soul” (spirit) of one of the “good judged angels” breathed inside of him or her.

However as part of the Judgement, we agreed to “drink of the cup of forgetfulness“.  We could not remember who we used to be (this is why the New Agers “feel” like reincarnation is true, because pre-existence witnesses to their “spirit“).  God has to “call us” and we had to hear his voice and respond (many are called, few are chosen, ref. Matthew 22:14, e.g. because they failed to respond to the “call”).

Some of the Angelic Refused the Judgment

The angels who refused the judgement became “fallen angels“.  They refused it because they saw their chance of success, living in a “mere human form” as being “slim to none“.  The figured they would take their chance with Lucifer because there was little hope in remembering who they used to be in the heavens, and instead they would fight back and try to kill off as many of “US” as possible in the next 6,000 + years.

They want to kill us off because WE …  “Judge the angels” …

1 Cor 6:3
Do you not know that we shall judge angels?
NKJV

We are ultimately the “Jury members” of the “fallen angels” after this whole “God at war” paradigm is over.  By killing us off they basically are killing off the members of the Jury.  Moreover when Jesus returns with ten thousands of his saints, the “fallen angels” will be condemned.

Jude 14-15
14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
NKJV

 

Another Angel War Cometh

Jude 14-15 is another forcoming war in the heavens of sorts.  Not only is this judgment upon those who remain here on earth, but it is upon the remaining “fallen angels“.

Lucifer has “duped” his “fallen angel” beings (in the Universe) into believing that they can win this war.  And yes it will be waged in “intergalactic technological transport vehicles” (UFOs).  The forces of the Galactic Federation of Light and the Extraterrestrial Military Industrial Complex will fight an “all-out” battle with GOD’S angels and they will LOSE!

And remember, Lucifer is “let out” one more time toward the end of the New Millennium, so we have another “boot camp” of sorts coming, before God tosses him into the Lake of Fire once and for all.

 

Also Don’t Miss This!

 

The Ashtar Command Reptilian Conspiracy
(Part 1)

Join John Baptist and Kenneth Beer for an in depth look at the Pleiadian – Andromedan – Reptilian conspiracy and how the New Agers have been “duped” by the lying Galactic Federation of Light.

We will touch upon the ancient history of these beings and how it all maps back to our Heavenly Father’s Holy Bible. We will explore the intentional demotion of our King Jesus Christ to a mere “ascended master” to assure the destruction of those who fall for the deception.

Listen to internet radio with John Baptist on Blog Talk Radio

 

The Ashtar Command Reptilian Conspiracy
(Part 2)

The most massive cosmic deception ever contrived awaits mankind. Join Kenneth and John (and Cathy in the chat-room) as they discuss the Andro-Pleiadian Reptilian Conspiracy, and how it all “ties into” the Return of the Sumerian “gods”. From the 11-11-11 “cosmic portals” being opened, to 11-11-11 on the back of the U.S. penny, to Lady GaGa’s name referring to the Sumerian “harbinger” of the coming of “Lucifer” and the birth of a “new race within a race”, to reports of the Sumerian “gods” arriving at any time, the crescendo of events is like none we have ever seen.

Listen to internet radio with John Baptist on Blog Talk Radio

 

AND BE SURE TO READ THIS …

Revelation of a New Age Deception

 

Next Go Here:  

Angel Wars and the Original Sin (Part 2)

http://www.tribulation-now.org/angel-wars-and-the-original-sin-part-2/

 

 

Summary in Jesus Name

Do I know if all of this is correct?  Of course not.  Has there been supernatural experiences in my life indicating in a HUGE way that I am correct … you bet.   I recommend you listen to The Edge AM radio show and hear all the amazing information brother Zen brought forth during the show.   Daniel Ott is a very quick witted fellow and he spent more time saying “WOW” on this show, more than any other I have heard thus far.

And WOW is the operative word here.  If the Lord didn’t want this information getting out to the public, then Zen and I wouldn’t have appeared on Conciencia Radio with 8 million listeners.  AND the Tribulation-Now radio shows are experiencing nothing less than impressive numbers as well.

We NEED to wake up our “brothers and sisters” who have been ripped off by the lying “sweet influences” of the Pleiadians and their deceived abducted “micro-chipped” workers.  We need to bring them back to …

THE WAY

THE TRUTH

AND THE LIFE

FOR NO ONE GETS TO THE FATHER

…. BUT BY

JESUS CHRIST

YAHUSHUA

THE KING OF KINGS AND THE LORD OF LORDS

 

… Be Blessed in Jesus Name

Time is Short

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10 Responses to Angel Wars and the Original Sin (Part 1)

  1. paul says:

    I refreshed my memory about some things – I just watched Exposing the Illuminati from Within by Bill Schnoebelen. I had downloaded it a while back from YouTube. Part 1 us at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNEkkb3Iv9g&feature=related
    and part 2 at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tfa8-a5N2g
    I am trying to figure how all this fits with info I am gleaning at your site.

  2. Jenny says:

    Thank you SO MUCH for covering this huge deception of the New Age.

  3. cindy kelly says:

    Thank you for covering this subject. It makes sense with everything else I have been learning. The time is so close. Praise God that I have finally got enough dots connected that I can say with confidence that this is true. Thank you again.

  4. Ro Norman says:

    What a profound, clear and perfect synopsis of our pre-memory and our pre-human life origins. It makes complete sense, and comfortably resonates with one’s (or at least my “Holy Spirit” confirmation sense. What a blessing. Thank you, thank you, thank you … for your diligent commitment to these truths.

  5. Gene Gautz says:

    Hi John

    God bless you and your ministry! I have been listening to your show for several months now and have a few questions which has caused me some confusion and a unsettling of what I have always believed. From what I have gathered from listening to the angel war shows and studying the articles on your website, we humans were once angels who together with Lucifer rebelled against God and have subsequently been sentenced to a temporary “mortal” life on earth in order to redeem ourselves through the precious blood of our Savior and a sort of rehabilitative process in which all sin and willful rebellion and disobedience is purged from our soul and spirit. Is this essentially correct, or have I misunderstood? I remember you saying recently on the show with Zen Garcia that you yourself for a time had a hard time getting your head around this concept. That is where I am at right now. On the one hand it sounds like pure fantasy but on the other hand I can see that you are a godly and anointed man of God who truly loves Jesus. As you have said, if this is in fact the case, it explains so much of what doesn’t make sense, particularly all the disparate suffering and perceived injustice in the world today and why doesn’t the Lord remove Satan and all the corresponding evil with him. Yet, with this theory it seems to imply that the precious blood of Christ is not the complete totality of our redemption and that the blood of Christ and a certain unknown entity is also required (be it our suffering, obedience or something else). I have always been taught (and to this day still believe) that salvation is a free gift of grace from God in which we add nothing but our repentance and faith. Another question I have is by virtue of our redemption are we (as it seems) to be elevated to a status above the good angels who never rebelled? That doesn’t make sense or seem possible in light of God’s perfect justice. I am not trying to be hard headed or argumentative but am honestly seeking the truth, just as you were at one point when you were trying to come to an honest understanding of these very important matters. Please find it in your heart to help me to understand and believe. One last question, you had talked of getting a sound Bible that has not been messed up through various errors in translation or omissions. What would you recommend? In closing I pray that the Lord will strengthen, protect and bless you! Your show is great and needs to continue!

    God’s blessings

    Gene

    • John Baptist says:

      I guess I don’t feel the same way as you do about this “theoretical” concept / understanding. Whether the original sin was Eve eating and apple or related to our fall millions of years ago and resulting judgment in Psalm 82, it has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the significance of Jesus incredible suffering and sacrifice. In fact regardless of what happened to get us where we are, without Jesus we would all be doomed. Even the Old Testament “patriarchs” were not allowed to go to Heaven until Jesus went down to “limbo” to get them. God bless you.

  6. Gene Gautz says:

    Hi John

    Thank you for responding to my question. While I still have my doubts I am going to ask the Holy Spirit for understanding and illumination, continue to listen to your show for edification and daily search the scriptures. Which brings me to ask again if you could recommend a good translation?

    Thanks so much & may God’s rich blessings be upon you!

    • John Baptist says:

      If you are talking about a paper Bible then I am a fan of having 2 books. A New King James / Amplified Parallel and a Kenneth Wuest Expanded New Testament. Electronic Bible? I recommend getting one of the affordable PC Study Bibles. I have the Professional Reference series and the Greek Hebrew Lexicons are amazing.

      God bless you

  7. Lisa Ceh says:

    Hi John,
    What is the name of the book and author that wrote about
    the Angel wars and luciferian rebellio ?
    Blessings,
    Lisa

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