Angel Wars and the Original Sin (Part 2)

The Divine Council of gods with Our Heavenly Father

Wars in the Heavens
Mysteries of the Bible Revealed

Well praise Jesus we received some powerful positive feedback from the 3 hour special Radio Show on Sunday night entitled “Angel Wars and the Original Sin with Zen Garcia“.    We tried to cover some ultra complicated concepts in an effort to present possible explanations of the “hows and whys” of our existence here on earth. We tried to cover some ultra complicated concepts in the Bible that traditional theology won’t touch and simply cannot and will not explain.

Many people cannot understand why we are here.  Some scientific minds can reluctantly accept the concept of “Intelligent Design” but reject the possibility of a sovereign God who desires a personal relationship with his direct creations.  This sadly results in perverted notions such as “panspermia” and other Ancient Alien theories from our friends at the History Channel.  The “ancient astronaut” theorists can easily suggest an alien race created mankind through DNA manipulation, but they can’t explain why the FOXP2  speech trait gene suddenly showed up without any explanation.  Indeed, why would an extraterrestrial race give a “man like” creature the ability to talk, and then teach it to speak over 2,000 different languages?  The fact is they wouldn’t.  The fact is they DIDN’T.  The Bible is NOT myth it is fact.  It was God that confused speech as clearly stated in Genesis 9:1-11.  It is God (YHWH) that created Adam and Eve in the Garden Paradise Eden and NOT the Annunaki Sumerian “gods” of the lying deceived Illuminati and Masonic Order.

The problem we have is that our Bible is incomplete when dealing with the complexities of such mysteries.  If Genesis chapters one and two included all the details of creation it would cover millions of years of time.  In fact the vast majority of the Adamic bloodline would not have understood most of the concepts.  Verily Moses himself would not have understood the majority of the concepts.  As the book of Daniel so eloquently puts it …

Dan 12:4
4 “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”
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And …

Luke 8:17-18
For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light. 18 Therefore take heed how you hear. For whoever has, to him more will be given; and whoever does not have, even what he seems to have will be taken from him.”
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What if we were able to answer difficult questions like:

  • If God really loves us then why do so many people have to suffer?
  • If God really loves us then why doesn’t He destroy evil and the devil?
  • Why are some people born into easy lives and other born into difficult lives?
  • Did all of humanity have to redeem itself because a woman ate a piece of fruit 6,000 years ago?
  • Why are we “born into” sin?  How is it possible we were sinners from birth?
  • Why is mankind so important to God when there are billions of stars in the Universe(s)?
  • I “feel” like I had a past life?  Why do I feel like I have existed in a past life?
  • Is there a such thing as reincarnation?  If not how can the Bible say that John the Baptist was Elijah?
Is it possible that knowing the answers to questions such as these might save souls for the Kingdom of Jesus Christ?  How many more people might ask Jesus Christ into their heart if they understood such mysteries and they actually made sense?

Luke 15:10
Likewise, I say to you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”
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What would you say to someone who asks you why a loving God would even create a place called hell?

Matt 25:41-42
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
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But wait?  We have just uncovered yet another Biblical mystery.  If Hell (the everlasting fire) was created specifically for the “devil and his angels” WHY THEN would mankind, even the cursed of mankind, be sent there?

The most likely answers to all these secrets are discussed in this radio show:

 Angel Wars & the Original Sin with Zen Garcia
A Three Hour Special

More Religion Podcasts at Blog Talk Radio with John Baptist on BlogTalkRadio

 

However this article will try to tackle some of these concepts as well.  Take heed “how you hear” (Luke 8:18).

 

A Concise Timeline of Creation to Jesus

Even after listening to all the radio shows and reading the vast resources of material, many folks still write and ask about how the overall timeline snaps together.  Admittedly this is not easy to grasp off the bat.  So here is a highly simplified graphic depicting a probable timeline of  these events as they probably happened.

A Concise Timeline of Creation to Jesus

 

Gazing into Glory

In the book entitled Gazing into Glory by Bruce D. Allen, is a fascinating chapter entitled “The Second Heaven”.  Not only does it reveal some amazing information about the second heaven, but it reveals yet another little known truth about the so-called “Lost Books of the Bible”.  Now while it is not possible to know for certain which books of the “lost books” should have been included in the accepted canon, it is astonishing to hear what our Heavenly Father told Mr. Allen during this supernatural experience.  Here is an excerpt from this chapter.

The Second Heaven

Let me continue with another experience and lesson translation by faith which the Lord gave me. About a year after the experience of driving from Seattle to Spokane, after much more study and prayer, and fasting and gaining a little more understanding about the hows and whys of translation, I said, “OK, Lord. I am ready for the next lesson.”

Little did I know! I was in my room worshiping God, and all of a sudden I felt this suction. When I opened my eyes I was standing in the stars! Whether in the body or out of the body, I cannot tell you, I only know that I was experiencing something supernatural and it was tangibly real.

The first thing I noticed was the stars were singing the praises of God. They are alive and vibrant! It was an astonishing revelation to fully realize the truth of the Word that all of creation sings forth the praises of God!

After some time (poor choice of words as time is insignificant during an experience like this), I realized I couldn’t see the earth or the moon. Nothing was familiar. There was just this vastness of the universe with creation singing forth praise unto God.

As I was contemplating that discovery, all of a sudden I saw off into the distance on my right what appeared to be a doorway suspended in the vastness of space. I could tell it was open because a bright white light shone through the opening, so it looked like a doorway of light.

I heard the voice of the Lord say, “Go ahead!”

My first thought was, “Go ahead? How do I do that?” I knew enough to take at least a step of faith, so as I thought about moving toward the door; I instantly moved through the doorway. I found myself in a small office front that stood empty. Immediately, a “knowing” came from the Spirit of God that I was in Sydney, Australia. (I have since been there and found the area I was translated to .)

The sun was just coming up. It was very early on a Saturday morning, so there was no traffic on the street outside. As I looked around the office, behind me I noticed a doorway to the bathroom. There was gray carpeting on the floor that had been worn over time, and I noticed markings with electrician’s tape where the desks had been.

I said, “Wow! That’s cool, Lord; I’ve always wanted to visit Australia!”

As I turned back to the front of the office, toward the windows and door; I saw a black marble facade building with tinted windows across the street on the right and a gray marble facade building with tinted windows on the left, with the empty street in front.

I said, “Lord, this is great,” and I headed for the front door with the thought of a little sight-seeing in mind.

“No, that is your lesson; now go back,” He spoke audibly.

Needless to say, I was a little bit disappointed, but now I was faced with another dilemma: How do I get back? Again, I knew enough to take a step of faith when I’ve heard from the Lord, so I moved toward the bathroom door, and when I went through that door I was back in my own room at home.

Now, I prayed and chewed on that experience for over a year. I said, “Father, how does this work?”

He said, “Remember the keys.”

“Yes, Sir.”

“Keys open what?”

“Doorways.”

I said, “OK.” Then I asked, “What about when Paul was caught up into the third heaven?”

He said, “That is a different doorway and that is a different key.”

I asked, “Father; what was the significance of being in the stars?”

He said, “Do some historical study.”

So I asked, “Lord, where do I start?”

He took me back to the Old Testament Pseudepigrapha. This is a compilation of books that never made it into the cannon of Scripture, including the books of Enoch.

The Lord instructed me to read the books of Enoch, so I read the books of Enoch. I was absolutely flabbergasted to see that Enoch had an understanding of the Gospel from Genesis to Revelation. He is even quoted in a number of places throughout the Bible.

One of the things I discovered was Enoch walked with God and he was taken out into the stars and saw the doors and the gateways of Heaven! I was fascinated.

I said, “OK, Lord, how do I marry that with the Word of God and what we can experience today? Because this is way out there.”

He said, “It is very easy. It is called the second heaven.” I got it! To go from the first heaven (where we reside) into the third heaven where Jesus is, you go through the second heaven where I saw the doorway. The second heaven is the domain of the demonic fallen angels. The third heaven is the realm of God.

From that point on, the Lord began to take me on journeys in to the realm of the spirit, showing me how translation by faith actually works. One of the keys we discussed earlier, Isaiah 22:22, is an example. You open what no man can close by speaking or declaring in faith!

Jesus said the things that He did we will do also. He steps in; He steps out–between that realm and this realm, between this realm and that realm.

The adventure awaits every child of God who dares to believe that what His Word says is true! We can and will walk as supernatural beings in a natural world with free access into all that the blood of Jesus has made available to us.

Take heed how you hear.

 

J. Vernon McGee

Dr. J. Vernon McGee is one of the most famous pastors of all time.  Many believe he was a pastor’s pastor.  Indeed he was.  Dr. J. Vernon McGee, in his book, Through the Bible,  wrote,

“I believe that Genesis is telling us that this earth became without form and void, that it was just as uninhabitable as the moon when the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. We can only suggest that there was some pre-Adamic creature that was on this earth. And it seems that all of this is connected with the Fall of Lucifer…”

“I believe that the entire universe came under this great catastrophe. What was the catastrophe? We can only suggest that there was some pre-Adamic creature that was on this earth. And it seems that all of this is connected with the Fall of Lucifer, son of the morning, who became Satan, the devil, as we know him today. I think all of this is involved here [in Gen. 1:2], but God has not given us the details.

The fact of the matter is that He has given us very, very few details in the first chapter of Genesis” (Vol. I, p. 13).

Take heed how you hear.

 

In the Beginning

What if there were millions of years of time left un-chronicled between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2?  There was indeed.  In fact Genesis chapter one is extremely metaphorical and leaves out a tremendous amount of incredible detail.  This is why there are meteor craters in Arizona over 50,000 years old.  This is why Neanderthal man is estimated to be approximately 300,000 years old.  AND WHO created Neanderthal man?  Was Neanderthal man Adam of Adam and Eve fame?  What about Cro-Magnon Man?  These were entire civilizations of man and woman “like” creatures were they not?

Gen 1:26-28
26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 2
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Hint.  This was NOT Adam and Eve.

There are a number of educational primer courses you can take from various sources to help you understand some of these concepts.  While I am not espousing all the belief systems of these various authors and teachers, I AM suggesting there is a LOT of truth in what these sources are suggesting.

Genesis and Geology – A book that does a good job of describing advanced concepts of the earth’s history and how it has existed far longer than the 6,000 year “young earth” period.  (Here)

The Satanic Rebellion – A free set of writings / books by Professor Robert Dean Luginbill, Ph. D. on the fall and rebellion of Lucifer.  Dr. Luginbill’s writings are irrefutable and jam-packed full of scripture from the 66 book canon (KJV). (Here)

Aliens and the Antichrist – A book that does a fabulous job of explaining extremely advanced concepts associated with how God’s angels (and potentially other ETs)  interact in this dimension, the supporting Biblical scriptures, and tons of great references. (Here)

Angel Wars and the Fallen Creators – A DVD that does a good job of introducing these concepts in a single discussion covering many advanced concepts such as “fallen creator gods” from the Luciferian rebellion, the man and woman creature in Genesis chapter one, the judgment of Lucifer and the fallen angels, and “who we are” in this strange existence here on earth. (Here)

The Luciferian Codes – Another work by pastor Klein that has some really thought provoking concepts that may play a role in a deeper understanding of things.  I present this one because it remains free to hear on You Tube.   By the way, Klein captured these concepts from a Dr. Jerry Lee who I have spoken with personally.  And while I do not agree with all of their notions, there is good information presented.  Be careful and DISCERN.   (Here)

Fallen Angels TV – Zen Garcia – Brother Zen Garcia I am blessed to say is someone I would not only call a brother in Christ Jesus, but a friend here on earth.  He is the author of 6 books, one that is to be released this November entitled “Sons of God – Who are We and Why are We Here?”   This article will include some concepts and a few quotes from this forthcoming book (by permission). (Here)

Past Tribulation-Now Articles – You may also consider reading past article published here on Tribulation Now including “The Heavenly Office of God“, “Angel Wars and the Original Sin” (part 1), “Intergalactic God“, “You Cant’ Handle the Truth“, and “Sons, Souls Elohim and Angels” (parts 1-4).

 

 Putting to Rest the Ancient Aliens Lie

The “Ancient Aliens” documentary series perpetuates the 2 Thess. 2 “lie” by suggesting that the ancient aliens were our creators.  In fact this is the lie that the Annunaki (Sumerian “gods”) will tell mankind during the Great Tribulation spoken of all throughout the Bible.

2 Thess 2:9-12
The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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The “lie” our Heavenly Father is referring to is that “they” (the aliens) are our creators.  This is the same lie that the upper echelon of the Masonic Order and Scottish Rite believes with their wall murals of the Dog Star Sirius.  This is the same lie that the L. Ron Hubbard Scientology followers believe.   This is the same lie that the Galactic Federation of Light and “make believe” Ashtar Command have told their deceived “Light Workers”.   This is the same rubbish people like Dr. Steven Greer of the Disclosure Project with his degree from the Maharishi University of Management and his book entitled “Hidden Truth – Forbidden Knowledge” believe.  This is the same poppycock that goofballs like Benjamin Creme believe as they push the shape-shifting Nachash-Annunaki Maitreya agenda telling everyone he is the coming Messiah.

The list goes on and on.

The ancient Sumerians DID NOT write about the creation of Adam and Eve by the Annunaki Sumerian “gods”.   The ancient Sumerian texts express surprise by the sudden appearance of so-called “civilized man” that demonstrated amazing intelligence that none of their DNA manipulated creatures possessed.  Let’s take a look at an excerpt from their writings.

A wonder of wonders it is,
in the wilderness by themselves to have come about!
Indeed a wonder of wonders it is,
a new breed of Earthling on Earth has emerged,
A Civilized Man has the Earth itself brought forth,
Farming and shepherding, crafts and tool making he can be taught!
So was Enlil to Enki saying. Let us of the new breed to Anu word send!
Of the new breed word to Anu on Nibiru was beamed.
Let seeds that can be sown, let ewes that sheep become, to Earth be sent!
So did Enki and Enlil to Anu the suggestion make.
By Civilized Man let Anunnaki and Earthlings become satiated!
Anu the words heard, by the words he was amazed:
That by life essences one kind to another leads is not unheard of!
to them words back he sent.
That on Earth a Civilized Man from the Adamu so quickly appeared,
that is unheard of!

 Let’s see what might have happened to amaze the Annunaki (Sumerian gods) shall we?

Gen 2:7
7 And the Lord God (YHWH Elohim) formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit); and man became a living being.
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Lucifer’s minions have twisted and lied about the ancient writings of EVERY CIVILIZATION to convince the unwitting dumbed-down goyim that “they” (the aliens) are our creators.  The sad fact of the matter is that the vast majority of Lucifer’s minions actually believe their own deceptions.

 

Why is Unsaved “MAN” Cast into Hell?

The secret of this mystery lies hidden within this verse.

Matt 25:41-42
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
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It makes no sense at all why “mankind” would be cast into a place prepared specifically for the “devil and his angels” UNLESS man qualifies as such.  The fact of the matter is that man DOES qualify as such.  The secret of who man is lies in the following two verses.

John 10:34-35
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods“‘?
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There are only two other places in the Bible (66 book canon) that use this phrase “you are gods” and in many ways they both say a similar thing.  However the one which is MOST obvious is the judgement upon the “sons of God” after the Luciferian rebellion millions of years ago.  This is found in Psalms 82.

Ps 82:1-7

82 God stands in the congregation of the mighty;
He judges among the gods.
2 How long will you judge unjustly,
And show partiality to the wicked?
Selah
3 Defend the poor and fatherless;
Do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy;
Free them from the hand of the wicked.

5 They (the victims) do not know, nor do they understand;
They walk about in darkness;
All the foundations of the earth are unstable.

6 I said, “You are gods,
And all of you are children of the Most High (sons of God).
7 But you shall die like men,
And fall like one of the princes.”

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The fact of the matter is that WE were part of the Luciferian rebellion and lived in a prior life.  We are not “reincarnated” because that is a demonic lie.  However we are INCARNATED into the flesh at conception to REDEEM ourselves from the SINS of our PAST EXISTENCE.  Our Heavenly Father KNEW that Adam and Eve were going to fall from the Garden and He planned it from the start.

And the MOST IMPORTANT part of that “redemption process” is we MUST RECOGNIZE in our hearts, that Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh, and HIS sacrifice on the cross is our ONLY path to forgiveness. His BLOOD is the ONLY chance we have at salvation.

We are NOT being given the opportunity to redeem ourselves through our relationship with Jesus because Eve ate a piece of fruit from a tree in the Garden of Eden. We are redeeming ourselves because we were involved in the ANGEL WARS millions of years ago.

 

Jer 1:5
5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;
Before you were born I sanctified you;
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And …

Eph 1:3-6
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.
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As brother Zen Garcia so eloquently puts it in his forthcoming book “Sons of God, Who are We and Why are We Here?”

The Grand Plan of Glory and Salvation
(Before the Beginning of Time)

In witnessing Yahweh call forth the Son, the Father had hoped that all of the angels would know that it was to His Son Yahushuah Savior Messiah, the light of the universe, that He had given dominion over all things and that they should praise Him as the Exalted One and only begotten of the Creator. We must remember that the plan of glory that is salvation has been carefully prepared for and laid out according to the will of the Father even before the foundations of this world. This plan has been known to Him since even before He brought all things into being through His Son the light of the universe. The plan of salvation would serve as reward for those whom choose to love and serve Him; it would also serve as a condemnation for the archons and humans who would war against the seed of Adam. The loss of our bright natures and fall into the flesh would be redeemed by and through the blood of our Creator, who coming into the flesh would become Savior for all those seeking to escape this world.

See:

John 1:1-5
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
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And …

John 10:27-30
My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”
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Still Struggling with Incarnation from a Past Life?

What’s all this talk about Elijah being John the Baptists and  …. uhmm … well …

Matt 17:11-13
11 Jesus answered and said to them, “Indeed, Elijah is coming first and will restore all things. 12 But I say to you that Elijah has come already, and they did not know him but did to him whatever they wished. Likewise the Son of Man is also about to suffer at their hands.” 13 Then the disciples understood that He spoke to them of John the Baptist. 
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And …

Matt 11:11-15
“Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. 13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come. 15 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
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This concept also plays itself out in the revealing of the two-witnesses as Elijah and Enoch if you so believe that will be the case.  Amen.

 

We are Not of This World

John 17:14-18
I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as  am not of the world. 15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.
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Some Definitions & More Clarification

An Email to Mike:

We have to really watch our step in our terms and definitions.  The term “fallen angel” is tossed around a little loosely by some folks out there and it makes me a bit uncomfortable because its too easy for people to misunderstand the intended meaning.   I am positive in my heart that mankind used to be involved in the wars in the heavens and the Luciferian rebellion billions / millions of years ago and that WE are the “children of the most high” referred to in Psalm 82 that shall “die like men”.  God has confirmed that for me so many ways its unbelievable.  I’ve had a number of instances where people, and pastors have telephoned me and said “John the Lord told me we are the ones spoken of in Psalms 82” or “John my brother was told by the Lord that he existed millions of years ago” , or “John … now I know why I had this vivid vision of Jesus taking me from the Heavens and bringing me down to earth telling me He would come back to get me”. …. etc. etc. etc.  … So I’m satisfied that is all correct.  There are many scriptures which I quote in the “Angel Wars and the Original Sin” articles I wrote that powerfully indicate this as well.  Its many more than just Psalms 82.

A “fallen angel” in my definition is an angelic being that refused God’s judgment and will ultimately be cast into the Lake of Fire.  They are part of the 1/3 of the angels that sided with Lucifer and are on a type of “appeal” awaiting their final judgment.  They are the beings flying around in the space ships and abducting people and all that terrible stuff.  Evidently some are interdimensional and others may actually be intergalactic but we won’t know the whole story there until we get off this rock and into the Heavenly Office.

If you take your time, and clear your heart, and be careful how you hear, you will see this in these articles with tons of references.

 

Angel Wars and the Original Sin (part 1)

http://www.tribulation-now.org/light-workers/

 

Angel Wars and the Original Sin (Part 2)

http://www.tribulation-now.org/angel-wars-and-the-original-sin-part-2/

There are scriptures and things that Jesus said and others apostles said that make it clear we existed before the foundations of the earth in some capacity of another.

 

I only use the 66 book canon to point out these mysterious verses and references AND I also tell people about the unbelievable happenings that occurred whereby the Lord was confirming this stuff to me.  But Zen spent years researching the extra-canonical books to see what they had to say and evidently (if you are careful and read carefully measuring it against the canonized scripture) the apocryphal writings confirm it over and again.

The most important thing to remember is that you DON’T have to believe it at all.  Its fine to reject it all if you wish.  It has no bearing on a person’s salvation UNLESS you want to help someone who is an unbeliever understand things like why some people feel like they previously existed, or why are some people born in horrible poverty and others born into nicer accommodations.  If God is truly FAIR then there must be a reason why we are in such disparity across the world.  If you want to explain why God allows Lucifer to live on, if you want to explain the really HARD questions like “why would God make us subject ourselves to unfair governments” even though they were instituted by HIM?  These questions cannot be answered adequately without understanding these concepts.

Take a look at the articles skeptically, Pray about it.  And see how the Lord leads.

God bless you

John

More Clarifications

Also just in case this is helpful here are some definitions:

Angel: an angel is a “messenger class” being of many many different types and kinds.  There are literally hundreds of different types of beings that God created across the Universe that can fit the classification of a “messenger”.   It comes from the Greek word “angelos” simply meaning messenger.  That all.  Nothing more.

Son of God/Children of the Most High – Are one in the same. Any being that is created directly BY GOD to work in the Heavenly Office of God (in Heaven) for GOD Directly, is a “son of God”.  This is different than a cat or a dog.  This is different than a being on another planet that is not directly created by God.  A “son of God” is a privileged class of being in the pantheon of beings that exist across the Universes and dimensions.  Lucifer is a messenger class being known as a Cherubim but he is also technically a “Son of God” and also an Archangel.  We are “sons of God” here on earth in a “fallen state” living in human “host bodies” (yea sayeth the Lord of “hosts”)

Spirit Beings – Spirit Beings do not die. Sons of God have spirits that do not die.  They can be sent to perdition forever, but they do not cease to exist.  They can go to heaven and have eternal life but they do not cease to exists.  They can be injected into a “host body” and perform functions according to Gods will in a “host body” but they are actually spirit beings that cannot die.  This is why a person who dies on an operating table will rise above their body and SEE their host body laying on the table.  Their “spirit being” rises up above the body.  Spirit beings can “incarnate” into “host bodes”.

SEE

Heb 13:2-3

Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels.

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vs.

Dan 10:5-6

I lifted my eyes and looked, and behold, a certain man clothed in linen, whose waist was girded with gold of Uphaz! 6 His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like torches of fire, his arms and feet like burnished bronze in color, and the sound of his words like the voice of a multitude.

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Here you see to “messenger class” beings.  The one referenced in Heb 13:2 is inside of a human “host body” (just like the angels that went to Lots house).  The angel in Daniel 10 was obviously NOT human with eyes like fire and appearance of lighting.

PRAISE HIS NAME

GLORY TO GOD

 

 Angel Wars & The Fallen Creators (First Part)

(Please SEE: Ken Klein Productions)

While Tribulation-Now does not necessarily agree with all of Pastor Ken Klein’s postulations, we do believe he has some of the most outstanding and highly advanced DVD lectures and films available in the world.  The last time we spoke directly with Pastor Klein, he no longer offered this DVD series entitled “Angel Wars and the Fallen Creators”, which I personally believe is some great content.  We are hopeful that he will add this selection back to his library of work.  We also recommend you consider buying “Invasion of the Dark Stars” and “The Luciferian Codes” as well.

Be Advised: Tribulation-Now does not agree with Pastor Klein’s position on the timing of the end-times, rapture, and end-of-the-age referred to around the 18 minute mark of this video.  The word “Yam” is not limited to meaning only the word “age” it can also mean a “day(s)” as well.

fallen creators

Angel Wars & the Fallen Creators

 

Summary in Jesus Name

So let’s take a quick look back at our list of questions from the beginning of the article.

What if we were able to answer difficult questions like:

  • If God really loves us then why do so many people have to suffer?
  • If God really loves us then why doesn’t He destroy evil and the devil?
  • Why are some people born into easy lives and other born into difficult lives?
  • Did all of humanity have to redeem itself because a woman ate a piece of fruit 6,000 years ago?
  • Why are we “born into” sin?  How is it possible we were sinners from birth?
  • Why is mankind so important to God when there are billions of stars in the Universe(s)?
  • I “feel” like I had a past life?  Why do I feel like I have existed in a past life?
  • Is there a such thing as reincarnation?  If not how can the Bible say that John the Baptist was Elijah?

You see God is “holy, holy, holy” …

Rev 4:8
The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying:

“Holy, holy, holy,
Lord God Almighty,
Who was and is and is to come!”
NKJV

The Bible doesn’t waste words.  In fact if anything the Bible is an understatement.  God knew from the beginning of time that Lucifer would fall.  Our Heavenly Father knew that some of those involved in the Angel Wars and rebellion would be truly sorry for what happened and need a PATH TO REDEMPTION.    We are “redeeming ourselves” from whatever it was we did (or did not do) during the Angel Wars.  Jesus said “(…) have I not said YE are gods”? (John 10:34)  The Bible clearly states that we are all “sons of God”.  Well “sons of God” includes ALL the angels by definition.

A “son of God” is … by definition …

Any direct creation of God the Father (YHWH) that works on behalf of the Heavenly Office of God for God.  This includes all the angels of every variety (which are many) and all the other minor gods in the heavens.

Most Christians already believe, by virtue of the scripture, that we are “sons of God” being redeemed in this life on earth.  AMEN!.   Redeemed from what?

We were born into sin because we sinned against God during the Angel Wars millions of years ago.  We (humanity) were a part of the “good guys” and agreed to drink from the “Cup of Forgetfulness” as part of the redemption process.

Ps 88:11-12
11 Shall Your lovingkindness be declared in the grave?
Or Your faithfulness in the place of destruction?
12 Shall Your wonders be known in the dark?
And Your righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?
NKJV

Look at what Wikipedia says about the Cathars, otherwise known by their neighbors in Southern France as “the good Christians” before they were slaughtered by the Roman Catholic Inquisition.

Here is the quote:

The Cathars believed there existed within mankind a spark of divine light.  This light, or spirit, had “fallen into captivity” within the corruption identified with the physical body and world.

THAT IS WHY THEY WERE SLAUGHTERED …

They (the Cathars) KNEW the secret and Lucifer’s minions did not want the secret getting out.  I believe this is one of the reasons why the Vatican Library has been in lock down for years.   This is WHY many of the legitimate inspired scriptures were labeled as apocrypha and pseudepigrapha and kept out of the current day BIBLE!

Brother Zen Garcia has uncovered volumes of scripture and historical writing from dozens of ancient manuscripts and “lost books of the Bible” that confirms and tracks back flawlessly to the accepted 66 book canon of today.  If I was to reprint all that text this article would be hundreds of pages in length.

THIS is WHY some of us have harder lives than others.  This is WHY HELL was created for the DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS;  because in essence that’s EXACTLY who we are.  BUT our Father LOVES US so much that He has provided a path of redemption for every one of us.  This was the plan from the beginning.

The PATH IS NARROW

Matt 7:13-14
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
NKJV

 

JESUS IS STILL
KNOCKING AT THE DOOR

 

ANSWER THE KNOCK BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

And BELIEVE YOU ME …
The Time is LATE!

REPENT
AND
ASK JESUS INTO YOUR HEART

GET BAPTIZED FOR THE REMISSION OF YOUR SINS

 

 

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
NKJV

 

… Be Blessed in Jesus Name

 

12 thoughts on “Angel Wars and the Original Sin (Part 2)”

  1. You say all men were ANGELS before they were reborn as flesh and blood humans? That they took some potion of ‘forgetfulness’ to make them forget who they are after getting born as humans? The Bible states:
    Psa 8:4 what is man that you are mindful of him, and the son of man that you care for him?
    Psa 8:5 Yet you have made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor.
    Heb 2:6 It has been testified somewhere, “What is man, that you are mindful of him, or the son of man, that you care for him?
    Heb 2:7 You made him for a little while lower than the angels; you have crowned him with glory and honor,
    My point – mankind was made a little “lower than the angels” and therefore cannot BE angels!

    1. Well not actually true. You are looking at the scriptures that are in scope of our earthly existence, so they are not pertinent to the times prior to the earth’s foundations. Its complex. God Bless You. John

  2. Ok..another question comes up as I’m researching all this…If you don’t think it was Adam and Eve God was referring to when He said, “let us make man in our image..” who was it He created?

    1. The understanding is that they were “manifold gods” (elohim) of many different kinds, and they created man and woman “like” creatures such as Neanderthal and Cro-magnon man etc. Again this is not possible to prove but it is one possible understanding / interpretation and it matches the ancient Sumerian texts with some NOTEWORTHY differences since they were fallen beings.

  3. This blew me away it showed me many different things that I always wondered about!!! God bless you and keep you.. Man I wonder what I did god has great mercy …. Please pray for me that I will recive the Holy spirit before its to late!!!!

    1. You don’t know me, but I will pray too! I think we must pray for each other, non-stop! Banding together, making a strong cord that cannot be broken! All of us in this “world that is not our home”… In the world but not of it. I feel the same as you! BLEW ME AWAY! I don’t yet know WHAT, but know I DID SOMETHING HORRIBLE, and reprehensible beyond words? beyond forgiveness, and yet…here He is STILL WILLING TO FORGIVE & RECEIVE US TO HIMSELF if we repent, ask forgiveness, and persevere to the end. WHAT HE DID TO ACHIEVE THIS FOR US instead of just giving up on us?!!!!! at least, in my very limited understanding, I hope I’m on the right track. MUCH MORE TO LEARN I NEVER KNEW! thank you for the beginnings of more great knowledge & wisdom–which I have been praying for, and discernment. I just cried sooo hard, — knowing — that we owe a debt that we can never repay…but thank GOD HE FORGIVES! He gave me a waking vision once–seeing Him hanging on that cross–in the crowd…watching…SOOOO REAL! I felt so small, and soooo guilty–so ashamed!!! I got down to the floor crying harder than I’ve ever ever cried in my life, & wanted to get UNDER THE FLOOR–could not get low enough…feeling somehow, I was responsible for what He was suffering…what He went through for ME, YOU, US! Sin, but not knowing what. I understand that better now…for more study. THANK YOU FOR OPENING MY EYES to so much beyond what I ever thought about. Not even knowing there was so much more! Time is short…He is pouring out His spirit and increasing knowledge…another thing I didn’t quite understand. Thought it was knowledge of other things……some in the world. GOD BLESS YOU!

  4. I was ready for the next mystery of the Word of God to be revealed.
    I have known for quite awhile that other ‘stuff’ happened prior to Adam and Eve because Satan and his angels had their time in which they were dealt with and thrown out of Heaven. However, I never knew that this understanding could be revealed through the Scriptures, yet the Holy Spirit caught my attention, and John gave me confirmation of what the Lord was saying to me. So amazing!

  5. So very eye opening. I have been following Zen Garcia and reading his books which has revived my interest in the secrets of the universe. I have dabbled in Christianity and New Age stuff and looked into other things such as Sumerian texts, ancient aliens etc but you and Zen along with others have taken the time to sift through all of it and take out the truth , as you have been shown by the Holy Spirit, and throw out the garbage, and bring it all together into a sensible story that does not take away from the scriptures of the Canon but rather bring more understanding to them. Knowledge will be increased in those last day which I believe we are living in now and it’s amazing to see how all that had been hidden is not being brought to light just as the prophecies foretold. May YHWH bless this work. It’s an amazing time to be alive on earth right now! Can’t wait to see what unfolds next!

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What is the Strong Delusion? What is the Lie? (2 Thes 2:11), It is the fallen angels (aliens) telling us that "they" are our creators.