The Real “Joel’s Army”

Don’t Be Fooled
They Are Coming Here to Slaughter Us

Many misconceptions abound regarding the cosmic threat we face as a global civilization. The “Christian Symposium” types like to refer to the UFO “entities” as interdimensional demons.

I am here to tell you this is simply NOT true.

Whenever someone is unable to interpret the scripture “to their liking”, they downgrade the concepts to something they more easily accept.  Time is simply too short for this mediocre approach to understanding.  Any somewhat advanced Christian leader out there, who is espousing an “interdimensional” (only) demonic alien presence, is ultimately letting the future victims down in a huge way.

When the skies are filled with “fallen angels” (extraterrestrials belonging to Lucifer’s fallen army), NOBODY is going to buy the inadequate explanation of “interdimensional demons”. They are “from afar” like the scripture says they are.  They come from “the North” and other locations in the galaxy.  We have to accept it’s time for a new “Glossary of Terms” and realize you are not going to survive this onslaught.

Put away your Orgone Supersoakers, and reptilian teak spears, and pay attention to the likelihoods, in Jesus Name.

Mankind’s Folly

Mankind is generally a pretty pathetic group of “host bodies” (e.g. entities) in the Universe. We really do tend to believe we are “all that“.  We ignore scripture such as Matthew 24:30 where it’s clear that “the elect” are gathered from “one end of heaven to the other“.  After all, that MUST mean the elect are all here on earth … right?  Nope. (sigh)

And don’t get me going on “the clouds of heaven”.  Do you really think the “chariots of fire” and the “clouds of heaven” referenced in the Bible were that simple?    Really?   Maybe it’s time to expand the possibilities.

It’s too late in the game to be espousing the same old 2,000 year “dribble” that theologians have been jamming down our throats.  We are in for a “pile of ulgy” and it’s time for us to stop “euphemizing” every concept that God has in his Holy Scripture.

This does more damage than good.

God’s angels, when in “host bodies”,  use “technologies” to interact with this dimension.  We need to accept this is way more than likely.   It’s in the Bible, and it seems pretty obvious.

Walking Dead Christians

There is a relatively new movement that refers to themselves as “Joel’s Army”.  God Bless You Steve (in Japan) for pointing this out to Tribulation-Now.  Praise God.

While there is not doubt, we proper Christians are 1) the Servants of Man, 2) the “Sons of God” and 3) the Masters of the Devil (from a “casting out of unclean spirits standpoint”), there is a point where you can take this WAY too far.  The scripture is complicated, it flows and the dynamics change, from beginning to end.  You have to understand the context of the guidance being provided at various times, and realize we are “brothers in Christ” and “gentle as doves“.

Sadly we are not all “wise as serpents”?  And even more regretfully, we are not all acting “gentle as doves”.

Before I continue, I will provide a link to Michael Hoggard’s video on this “Joel’s Army”problem.

For the most part, I agree with Pastor Hoggard. He’s definitely doesn’t seem to understand the “intergalactic cosmic threats” we face in our imminent future, but when it comes to most advanced Christian understanding, he appears to be “on target”.

The Truth Behind Joel’s Army Part 6 of 8

He does, however, have a pretty good fundemental understanding of the “alien-demon” problem as it applies to UFOs, but he is one that will be “astonished” when he sees they are not just “interdimensional”; just like one of my favorite teachers, Chuck Missler.

Why Do I say “Walking Dead”?

If you “really” know your scripture, you will realize there is no place in the entire Bible that we Christians are “empowered” in the end-times in such a way as to “fight the forces of Satan” successfully.  I know that some readers will shake their fists in the air and tell me I’m wrong, but “I dont’ think so”.

Yes there are many scriptures that suggest the Holy Spirit will be poured out in the latter days.  Amen.  There are scriptures that tell us to “stand” and that thousands will fall to our right and left,  but we are to “stand” anyway.

But when God says he will protect us, is God really referring to keeping us alive during the Great Tribulation?  Perhaps some of us.  Or is it possible He is referring to protecting our “eternity”?  Think about it.  What is GOD really concerned about?

There is NO PLACE in the Bible where God tells us to “hang on” to our earthy existence (Phil. 1:21).  We are to be Christ “like”.  SHEEP.  Jesus is the “Lamb” of God.  God and His Son Jesus Christ will take vengence upon those who “wrong” his people.   NOT US.

Even when you read about the Tribulation-Saints, you realize they are the ones who are “martyred” for the sake of the Lamb of God.  Their robes are washed white by the “blood of the Lamb”.

They are “beheaded” and killed (ref. Rev. 20:4).

Even the mysterious “Two-Witnesses” are eventually KILLED by Satan’s army.  God then rescurrects them from the dead and “beams them up” to a “cloud of heaven”.  Get it?

God “evacuates” His people from the earth, and then BLOWS this pop-stand straight to Hell (simply put).  How the “new earth” and “new heavens” fit into all of this, I don’t know. Exactly how the “new millennium” works after this all goes down, I don’t know.  Somethings are best left to God and His awesome Son, our King, Jesus Christ.

What Do We Really Face?

When the armies from HELL referred to in Joel actually begin to slaughter mankind, the type of evil we face is worse than most people can ever imagine. Let’s take a peak at what Isaiah saw.

Isa 13:15-16
Whoever is found will be thrust through,
and whoever is caught will fall by the sword.
16 Their infants will be dashed in pieces
before their eyes;
their houses will be plundered
and their wives ravished.
ESV 

When this is happening do you think you can shout “Stop that in Jesus Name?”  How many people in Nazi Germany did the same thing to no avail.  It rains on the just and the unjust. When God pulls back, and that which restrains is “taken out of the way”, all HELL is going to break loose.  All bets are off.

You had your chance to be a WISE VIRGIN (Matt. 25) and you “messed up”.

Am I saying that God will offer you absolutely no protection at all.  No.  But things are going to be extremely bad, and you need to pray up, start praising, and get yourself a Holy Spirit filled ticket “off this rock”.

These are Not Demons, They are Lucifer Controlled Alien Cosmic Entities

I cannot make you do all the homework I have done.  I cannot make you read all the books I have read.  I cannot make you correlate all this data back to the Bible like I have.  All I can do, is try my best to help you understand that if you DON’T give up on “this earthy fleshy existence” you are in for a “whole lotta’ ugly” on a level never seen since the foundations of the world.

I will repeat myself once again.

The Pleiadians report to the Draconian / Reptilian entities.  LISTEN.  This is a good cop / bad cop “set up”.  Anyone who buys the New Age “personal angel” garbage is in for an eternity in Hell.  There is no Federation of Light.  It’s a pile of HOGWASH.  Any time you hear about the Council of Nine, you are exposed to the “Board of Directors” for Lucifer himself.  Nine is Lucifer’s number.  Read Ezekiel 28.  It’s all there.

Yes there are Merkabah Light Ships” that the Pleiadians use to “fly around” in.  Yes they are real.  Yes they “look human” but they AREN’T!  They are lying minions of Lucifer’s cosmic army of “angelics” that were involved in the Orion Wars.

It’s doesn’t matter what you have seen or heard, they are lying.

A More Accurate Understanding of Scripture

I have tried to get people to take the time to read John W. Milor’s book, “Aliens and the Antichrist” more than once.  But alas, it seems no one will take the time to do it.  It’s most unfortunate, because in more than a half decade of intense research, it’s one of the very best books I have read if you want to TRULY understand that God is INTERGALACTIC and the references in the Bible are not talking about some “nebulous tribe” from the Russian North or some strange metaphor for a Bear, or some earth bound location for the Gog or Magog invasion.

You need to understand this is a COSMIC PROBLEM.

Here is a snippet from the FREE book by John W. Milor to give you a “hint” at what you are missing.  And by the time you read it, you just might be staring one of the “Locusts” in the face.  So you better hurry up.

The highest heaven is clearly described as a glorified planet in the northern hemisphere of the universe. Lucifer led his rebellion into the sides of the north (Isaiah 14:12–14), Mount Zion is in the sides of the north (Psalms 48:2), and promotion comes not from the south, east, or west, but from the Lord, and therefore the north (Psalms 75:6–7).

The majority of the hosts of heaven understand their precise purpose for existing, as defined for them by God himself. However, as far as I am aware, no such species has ever been depicted on a single episode of Star Trek. Aside from that, good ol’ Gene (Gene Roddenberry, the author of Star Trek), nearly got it right, in my opinion.

Isaiah 14:12–14 (bold emphasis added)

How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! You said in your heart, I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.

Psalms 48:2 (bold emphasis added)

Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is Mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.

Psalms 75:6–7*

For promotion, cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south, but God is the judge: He puts down one, and sets up another.

*Promotion doesn’t come from the east, west, or south, yet the north is conspicuously left out.

The majority of the hosts of heaven understand their precise purpose for existing, as defined for them by God himself. However, as far as I am aware, no such species has ever been depicted on a single episode of Star Trek. Aside from that, good ol’ Gene (Gene Roddenberry, the author of Star Trek), nearly got it right, in my opinion.

AND GET THIS!

John Milor doesn’t even realize that Gene Roddenberry got his information for Star Trek from Phyllis Schlemmer, a “channeler” for the “Council of Nine”.  See here: The Only Planet of Choice.

What About Joel?

Let’s take a quick look at some of the verses in Joel.

Joel 1:5-7

5 Awake, you drunkards, and weep;
And wail, all you drinkers of wine,
Because of the new wine,
For it has been cut off from your mouth.
6 For a nation has come up against My land,
Strong, and without number;
His teeth are the teeth of a lion,
And he has the fangs of a fierce lion.
7 He has laid waste My vine,
And ruined My fig tree;
He has stripped it bare and thrown it away;
Its branches are made white.
NKJV

Pay attention here. This is not Russia people.

Joel 1:19

2 A day of darkness and gloominess,

A day of clouds and thick darkness,
Like the morning clouds spread over the mountains.
A people come, great and strong,
The like of whom has never been;
Nor will there ever be any such after them,
Even for many successive generations.
NKJV

You still think this is Russia or China?

Joel 2:3-5

3 A fire devours before them,
And behind them a flame burns;
The land is like the Garden of Eden before them,
And behind them a desolate wilderness;
Surely nothing shall escape them.
4 Their appearance is like the appearance of horses;
And like swift steeds, so they run.
5 With a noise like chariots
Over mountaintops they leap,
Like the noise of a flaming fire that devours the stubble,
Like a strong people set in battle array.
NKJV

It’s getting pretty weird here if you ask me.

Joel 2:8-9

They do not push one another;
Every one marches in his own column.
Though they lunge between the weapons,
They are not cut down.
9 They run to and fro in the city,
They run on the wall;
They climb into the houses,
They enter at the windows like a thief.
NKJV

These are NOT grey aliens abducting people folks.  This is a war.  These “things” are slaughtering people during the Great Tribulation here.

Joel 2:10-11

The earth quakes before them,
The heavens tremble;
The sun and moon grow dark,
And the stars diminish their brightness.
11 The Lord gives voice before His army,
For His camp is very great;
For strong is the One who executes His word.
For the day of the Lord is great and very terrible;
Who can endure it?
NKJV

Wow.  So the earth quakes before them?  REALLY?  Ahhh. D id you READ yesterdays’ article?  Do you understand that the Mayans predicted a cataclysmic earthquake before the “Men of Knowledge” arrive?  Do you remember that Nostradamus predicted that UFOs are involved in WWIII?

AND REMEMBER THIS!

When it says “The Lord gives voice before His army” … DO NOT FORGET … God has his own army of cosmic angels that are currently fighting on our behalf.

Who do you think is fighting right now around the corona of the Sun?  While of course I could be wrong, I sincerely doubt it’s the Pleiadians vs. the Reptilians!

I believe it’s “THAT WHICH RESTRAINS“. (2 Thess. 2)

Read your Bible.

Summary in Jesus Name

For the better part of almost 8 months now, I have euphemistically been trying to get this information out to people in hopes of not having too many people “fall away” from the truths and mysteries of the Bible.

As long as you don’t fall for “the lie” in 2 Thess 2, that “they are our creators”, then you have a half a chance of “making it”.  But you MUST realize that ONLY Jesus Christ is KING.

Not Buddha, not Krishna, not Zoroaster, NO ONE ELSE.

The “New Age” Federation of Light “folks” have so much of their story correct that it “boggles the mind”.  Yes we do “transcend”.  But we transcend our flesh bodies to become reunited with Jesus Christ.  We don’t become part of some nebulous intergalactic family of cosmic Pleiadian friends.  That’s BULL.

The Divine “Council of Nine” is Lucifer’s cosmic leadership team.  There is no ascension into a Christ Like energy existence.  We will RULE AND REIGN in the Universe with Jesus Christ AFTER He destroys the Pleiadian, Reptilians, Zeta Reticulans, and the whole bunch of those “fallen angel” abominations.

In the book by Dr. Jerry Lee entitled “The Manifester Chronicles Before Genesis”, Dr. Lee talks about the “Locusts” in the Bible.  He has talked to me on the phone for I guess about 12 hours now.  On page 24 of his book he says:

“However, not all reference to the (Holy) Watchers are the Arcturians (God’s angels), additionally there are the Cherubim guardians who are the good Watchers (Matthew 18:18) and there are the MANTIS Watchers of Revelation 9:3 who are creations of the convoluted side. These Mantis creations of convolution (Lucifer/Satan) are located in deep space and fly spacecraft called zaams.”

 

Again, he is referring to the word “Locust“.

I wrote articles over a year ago “coincidentally” suggesting that the Locusts in Revelation 9 were creatures that look like the entities in the “Aliens” movie.  A YEAR later I spoke to Dr. Lee and only “recently” I read his book.

He is correct.

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Author: John Baptist
Researcher. Writer. Engineer. Born Again "Spirit Filled" Christian. If you want to get to know me, just email me. All Tribulation-Now email list members are friends in Jesus.

20 thoughts on “The Real “Joel’s Army”

  1. John,

    I am reading John Milor’s book now and am about 75% through it. Learned about it from you.

    Your last 2 posts have been incredible. They move my soul to cry out to the Lord.

    Bless you my Brother for your courage and faith to tell the truth as you have learned it and God has revealed it to you. Never, never, never, never let the faithless or even the faithful lacking wisdom bring you down.

    In man’s terms, Zig Ziegler once said “Don’t be a SNIOP. (Sensitive to the Negative Influence of Other People)

    Set your course and keep working tirelessly for the Lord. Keep carrying the Cross. I know the weight can feel heavy at times but where would guys like I be without leaders like you. Some of us touch larger audiences than others but only later will we understand the full impact we had for the kingdom. The synergy we create is probably bigger then we realize.

    In Christ,

    Rob

  2. Johnnyeee … You are A Jewel Brother … I love the way you handle your ministry.. You are very properly named… WOW

    1. Yahweh has given a “bell ringer” and Yahweh has given a “time caller”. Amen brother Jonny we are “two peas in a pod” for Jesus.

  3. John,

    Thanks for posting the link to Aliens and the antichrist. My wife and I

    are reading this together. I sent it out to some of my friends and one of

    my friends sent me this comment.He is a forensic investigator.

    pg. 48.. I think its fairly accurate about keeping land clean. I have been to some grizzly crime scenes (even after they are cleaned up) and they still give me an uneasy feeling. I would never live in a house where a murder occurred. It makes sense also since the satanists desecrate places with murdering people and animals in order to invoke the evil spirits.

    Where do you find this book? The Manifester Chronicles Before Genesis Ira

  4. Good post and thanks for the e-book. Ironically watching my DVR’ed season finale of the “Event” was what drove me to send the CERN stuff over, not sure if you’ve looked at it. I wonder if man & or mankind has to willingly open the gateway or do something to precipitate the timing of the “arrival”/”departure” depending on how you look at it I.e. eating from the forbidden tree.

    God Bless

  5. I am reading that book “Aliens and the Antichrist” right now and am finding it very very interesting. It’s answering a lot of questions I have had- and leading me to new ones. But it’s all good…I like to be challenged!

  6. hi John

    i ve had to read the post twice, i think theres a double-sided problem here –
    ..the first and most big problem is, that almost all ‘mainstream endtime prophecy ‘ has (deliberately) been transformed into a kind of carnal/1dimensional way of thinking, full of one-liners, with the purpose of centering them all around the situation of the present “little nation” .
    ..it is incredible, how much damage this carnal understanding of prophecy has done; especially since the present ‘little nation’ aint His ‘ doing – but is Ez 36: 1-5, only.

    It is crucial, vital to realize that – because ONLY if one sees that our Lords Kingdom is the Heavenly Zion, and that His Kingdom ‘is NOT from this world ‘, only than is opening up the baffling l;arger picture of Prophecy

    …and you hit the nail on the head, when you say that ‘Gog ‘ is not russia – but indeed the spiritual Evil of sata* himself – like ‘magog ‘ will be that lost part of mankind, what will have chosen for him.
    – and that ‘the North’ refers to the Other Dimensions
    Alike, again you re right that Joels army are rows and rows of evil creatures, ‘from the fundaments of the world ‘(Jes13 = from another dimension)

    yet
    i cannot agree, that ‘they arent demons ‘
    but maybe you merely stated ‘they are materialized demons ‘ ?

    The double-side here is, that it is US who dont live in an “adequate reality” ;
    meaning, not the physical existance of locusts/aliens or ufos is the most important,
    but their NATURE, their being, in the other, réal dimensions – just like Heaven belongs to those other, real dimensions
    – not to this shadowy , material one

    ..my point is, that it is their Pure Evil what is the nature of these other-dimensional beings, what will make ‘mankind fail their hearts from fear’ – not their physical appereance. Their description of locusts depicts their evil náture; and these beings will NOT be directly visible – but only when the Veil will lift, sometimes – but they will inject into the heart such a dread, evil presence, sphere, yes like a ‘sting’
    – indeed: these will play the ‘bad cops’, as you wrote, maybe later in time, when the world will get even more dark, the ‘good ones ‘ will show up – maybe with a, by themselves created physical appereance – but their NATURE will be the same dimensional evil

    For a short while, His 2 Witnesses will have also powers in that other dimension (closing clouds etc) ; these 2 witnesses are the 144.000: named ‘Joseph and Judah ‘ (Obadja) or, like Isaiah 43 ‘ Israel and Jacob (are My witnesses) ‘
    ..and those will bring in ‘the multitude’

    …this carnal teaching of prophecy is púrposely done: so that the full number of the 144.000 wont be reached, but remained trapped in carnal lies

    thanks for this post
    Lone

    1. Well we will just have to agree to disagree on that one. Thanks for leaving your comments. They are real, they are already “in this dimension”, and on very short notice the whole world is going to realized that. Amen and God Bless You.

  7. Sorry, man, but the symposium is right—they ARE demons. They are physical manifestations. Go look up c4 research group and alienstranger.com. Then go read the book by Nicole Malone about the supernatural abilities of angels and demons.

    There are NO other alien races or PHYSICAL races out there…WE HUMANS are IT.

    your Milnor guy is just plain wrong when he subscribes to the belief that there are others in the universe. I’ve read LOTS of articles scientifically explaining why there is no other physical life in the universe besides US….most of space is too irradiated. The whole “true ET” thing also supports evolution…in other words, if there were any true, physical alien races out there, then we can just assume we came together out of nothing from mindless molecules, that we have no purpose, and that we will cease to exist at death. There is no “God”, no heaven or hell, no judgement—THAAAAAAT is the view of the evolution theory. Of course, we know that’s wrong.

    Any “aliens” walking the planet during any point in the tribulation will be demons, or demons in disguise—the same as they are now.

  8. Don’t get me started on Bob Lazar. THAT guy has been debunked so many times, it’s not funny. Same for the dulce base.

    Lazar is a physics guy who runs technical companies under gov’t contract. He has the technical knowlege and the creativity to weave a good story about area 51. Assuming it’s real, what he’s seeing is physical demonic manifestation.

    Note that the reptilians at the dulce base need blood to “exist in our dimension.” Give some of the supernatural qualities of blood that I’ve read about, it’s a dead give-away as to who and what they are…..okay, I’ll shut up now.

    1. Yep DK. We humans here on earth are the ONLY LIFE FORMS IN THE UNIVERSE!! (smiling from ear to ear) You have some of your information correct, but you still have a long long long way to go. God Bless You brother, I used to think exactly like you do right now. I’m so glad I didn’t close my mind and continued to research. GLORY TO JESUS.

  9. I have always been one to just focus on the positives in life, not watching the news because our local news station just talks about footy players and which politician embarassed themselves this week. Over the last couple of months I have been watching world news especially with everything environmentally that has been happening. Just that alone is enough to make you to draw closer to God.

    With reading everything on this website and researching what scientists, NASA and conspiracy theorists say I think there are too many ‘matchups’ with each area to even try to discredit alot of it. Just watching primetime tv with it’s shows on witches, werewolves and the supernatural shows a definite build up of immunity to these ‘unbelievable’ presences. Most young people would be quite willing to see any of these things in real life as the fear of what they look like has been taken away.

    I can’t say that everything is very clear to me as it seems that the Lord is allowing His Word to be more understood at this time. Like a veil has been taken off. I recently read the Book of Enoch and if anything my awe of God’s creation power and His love for those that seek after HIM has grown so much. How great is the God we get to call our Father. No matter what man may try to accomplish or Satan for that matter may try to destroy Praise the Lord, Satan’s end is already prophesied. We just need to spread the gospel like Jesus told us to.

  10. I was especially interested in your explanation of the supernatural army in Joel because it disturbed me on some points when I read the Scriptures. They ravish women, kill and destroy everything in their path etc.

    Many preach that this is Jesus army of resurrected believers and faithful angels. I found that explanation disturbing because I cannot picture myself ever doing those things to anyone no matter how evil they are.

    We will RULE and REIGN with CHRIST … AFTER… the Pleiadians, Reptilians etc. and the whole bunch of fallen angel abominations are defeated.
    Thanks for clearing up this disturbing point for me. If you see my website you will see I have done a lot of research as well. B. Fox

  11. Have you read Joshua 9? Israel’s enemies came up with a plan to keep from being destroyed: 4. They did work wilily, and went and made as if they had been ambassadors … 6. And they went to Joshua unto the camp at Gilgal, and said unto him, and to the men of Israel, We be come from a far country: now therefore make ye a league with us.
    7. And the men of Israel said unto the Hivites, Peradventure ye dwell among us; and how shall we make a league with you?
    8. And they said unto Joshua, We are thy servants. And Joshua said unto them, Who are ye? and from whence come ye?
    9. And they said unto him, From a very far country … very long journey.
    14. And the men took of their victuals, and asked not counsel at the mouth of the Lord.
    15. And Joshua made peace with them, and made a league with them, to let them live: and the princes of the congregation sware unto them.
    16. And it came to pass at the end of three days after they had made a league with them, that they heard that they were their neighbours, and that they dwelt among them.

    I just find this very similar to what our foolish world leaders have also been doing with these “aliens from afar” in that they have not asked God but made a deal to be at peace with them and therefore God will allow these enemies to dwell with them and be their destroyers. But it says they were their neighbors from the beginning and only pretend to be from a far country. Jesus said that an enemy sowed tares among the wheat here on this earth. When God asked Satan where he has been in Job, he answered Job 1:7. And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. No mention of coming from distant space.

    Do they use technology? Sure, why not? I think that there is a difference between fallen angels and demons. The former were created by God good but fell with Lucifer the latter are the result of uniting angels with daughters of men to produce offspring that when killed in Noah’s flood left evil spirits that became known as demons. These spirits were never good nor were they intended by God to exist. They had no chance at being good and ferociously hate mankind for that reason. (Frankenstein’s monster is an allegory – coming from man but can only be evil and therefore hates man, see the depiction starring Robert De Niro for the best portrayal of this scenario.) For this reason, I believe that a just God allows demon spirits to be the tormentors in hell.

    We are to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. I appreciate your posts and will look at the book but I wanted to ask you about this point.

    1. Fascinating comment. Yes I’ve read it. Amen. Indeed not all uses of the term “afar” are off-earth. Just as not all references to the direction “North” means the northern part of the heavens or the term “star” means angel or even “brother(s)” … makes for some very interesting possibilities in interpretation. And duplicity in meaning can never be ruled out either. Lines upon lines precepts upon precepts. AMEN

  12. In reference to your Joel interpretation. Notice at the beginning in Joel 2 it says blow the trumpet and then mentions the Day of the Lord. The trumpet blowing has always signals the Lord’s day. Then it gives a brief description of that day and the army that is coming upon the inhabitants of the earth. Now read Joel 2:11. It says the Lord Thunders a head of his Army. Notice he calls it His army. That should be a clue to who the army is made up of. I don’t think our Lord’s army is made up of fallen angels or annunaki. Rather this is a description of the angels and the saints that come back with Jesus Christ on the day of the Lord at he end of the great tribulation. Maybe I am wrong, but a bit confused. I do however see the fallen sons of God coming back here at the 5th trumpet of Revelation which is at the middle of the 7 years. What are your thoughts or any one? I do see what appears to be the same locust written in Rev 9 as Joel 2, but I question why Joel 2 starts talking about the day of the Lord and finishes with the Lord thundering ahead of his army?

    1. Now compare those verses to Isaiah 13 where the Lord sends HIS armies from the far ends of the heavens. These armies are ALIENS (hosts of heaven) and our Heavenly Father controls them!!

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